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If I lived in Italy, now close the site.

October 19, 2007 11:29 am

There seem exaggerated? Wait till you read my motivation.

Perhaps my fault, or perhaps as the measure was brought forward, I was not aware of what the government had prepared under the August sun.
Now .. generally in August, our (excuse the evil .. but today's your lucky) dear ministers and MPs were more concerned with the dinners of fish in Capri or Portofino .. cruise boat in some exotic location .. to be seen in some beautiful brown holiday party up and down the boot.
This year, apparently decided that August was the best time to pull one of the biggest blunders you can imagine: the draft law on publishing submitted August 3, 2007 and approved by the Italian Council of Ministers on October 12.
Here is the text of the dll .
I am not a lawyer or a lawyer .. I could not even be able to read a text like that (give me a differential equation or Fermat's theorem and understand them much better), so I relied on those making the craft, such as Valentino Spataro of Civile.it.
In soldoni this bill provides that any business website must register with the ROC ie the Register of Communications Operators .
I can already tell that some of you .. Andrea exaggerated! Certainly this bill apply only to commercial publishing newspapers, the online magazine and things like that.
Unfortunately it is not. Let's see what a publishing product (Thank you very much is that Civile.it Point Computer Aid in the "translation" of the text):

"For editorial product means any product covered by the objectives of information, training, dissemination, entertainment, whether for publication, whatever the form in which it is made and the means by which it is spread" ( Article 2, paragraph 1).

Right? for me not yet. The question that springs to mind is "my blog and my podcasts are publishing?". To try to understand I keep reading and you start talking about what is not an editorial product:

"There are only publishing products than for corporate information, both internal use and the public."

This does not apply .. I'm not holding my site and my podcast will be notified of a company. Read on:

The rules of this Act shall not apply to products and audiovisual recordings.

Ok here I see a loophole for the podcast .. I consider it as a product and audiovisual recording. Well, I escaped.
No.. wait .. and release notes?
Point computer read:

The Government, in drafting this bill, did not forget, however, product editorials or additional collateral are those products, including audio-visual record or that are "popular with the product main editorial.

This sentence is not very clear .. that we must deepen. So I read says that if I put the release notes for each episode of the podcast I fried.

But wait .. that are stupid .. it is clear the trick! I have not for profit! In fact all let's face it .. not even clothe costs between site and podcasts!
Oops .. read

For editorial work means any activity concerned with the creation and distribution of publications, and the related advertising. The exercise of editorial can also be performed in a non-business purposes for non-profit

I remain speechless. My little blog and my little podcast seem to fall into this bill. Please tell me I'm wrong.

One thing is sure .. if that were all closed today. You think I should take the trouble to deal with costs and red tape to keep that bullshit register online four days and a series of links and reviews written during breaks from work? And even the revenues from which no money for a coffee a month? Okay passion .. but here you get to levels that even passion can justify.

There is much talk about free movement of ideas, opening the culture of the Internet as a means of democratizing of knowledge ... and a government that pretends to be a center-left government comes out with something like that?

I remember an old song by Gaber, Right and Left, in which he stated "the culture is left." Certainly it will be turned over in his grave poor Gaber.

One of the greatest presidents of the republic that Italy has never been called Sando Pertini. He was a socialist of the good ones. This government should clearly refer to its values. I remember Pertini once said something like "I can be contrary to your idea, but will fight to the death because you can express."

From many parts I read that this bill will have a long life so badly written, perhaps because he was not even the intention of the government to reach certain conclusions. I do not know .. I hope so but I do not know.

One thing I know, and this is certain: I live in France Caro Prodi government! MY BLOG IS NOT OVER! Luckily I live in a country where the government cares much more to ensure that market rules respect the interests of consumers rather than setting rules on the passions of citizens.
Fortunately (I am increasingly convinced) no longer live in Italy .. and certainly not things like this make me want to return.

And even if in reality the government does not intend to legislate on blogs and personal sites, that it was just a poorly written text and full of contradictions due to the hot Roman August, as you rightly wrote Paolo De Andreis point on computer, if High School translating a bad translation from Latin (I greek I did :-D ) Or wrong analysis function, prof. I put 4! These can make all the mistakes they want and then corrects never have consequences.

Close (but I plan to come back), citing once again Gaber:

"I do not feel Italian, but fortunately or unfortunately I am."

Links mentioned:
- Place information, commented Paolo De Andreis .
- Civile.it, the article Spataro

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15 Responses to "If I lived in Italy, now close the site."

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Sleeping wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

The songs are there just to brush Gaber :-D ...
But do you think this is true even for a tiny blog like mine?
Among other things are more useless, because in many cases (like mine and for once I'm glad this thing ;-) ) Or what the blog is not physically resides in Italy, so that measures can never take for infringement :-D ?
But above all, what does this record? It costs or other setbacks in?
Thanks :-)

Nanello wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

Hello Andrea! If you remember me ... I'm David's nanello.com, disappeared for a good time. Now I'm back online ... but what do I do? go offline because of a bunch of incompetent politicians that I do not know that means blogs or podcasts. It 's a tragedy, but I go out the same and I do not care of the arrogant dominance of our government. A little 'I envy you who lives in France ... a country certainly ahead of us.

ilnissardo wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

Sleeping @: for what I could understand the problem the bill is right there, consider a personal website as editorial content. Makes no difference. That a law is useless I agree, but your reasoning is wrong. You are resident in Italy and as such you are subject to Italian law, even if the site you manage is abroad. Of this I am sure, many illegal P2P sites had tried this trick, and on time were seen arriving home the yellow flames.
Surely the registration will cost. The bureaucracy has a cost, always.

@ Nanello: Hello David! It 'a life that you feel! It 'nice to reread. Obviously, I agree with you. Particularly as the procedure is still active, and as I wrote I'm sure when they will realize (because hopefully someone will be aware ...) of what they have done something in time. Otherwise, the ROC would burst ... imagined by tomorrow all Italian bloggers who call to register :-)
I do not cha think France is ahead of Italy, or rather do not think this is the problem. The problem in my view is that in Italy sometimes (often) pay little attention to the really important things and so much (too much) attention to the bullshit. Besides this, our politicians have the unhealthy tendency to legislate things that do not know and often superficially without bothering to analyze the consequences through. The bill introduced would also be a good law, I am not able to say, if only they had added a specification that leave out all the blogs and personal sites.
Legislate on the Internet is a very bad habit, but I realize it is necessary at the same time is extremely difficult to do given the dynamism of the network and the slowness of the legislative process. I'm sure the gentlemen who wrote this law when they hear the word blog to think or Grillo Mastella, ignoring the true nature of this instrument and the myriad of people who use it.

Gian Marco wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

myriad of people who use it = myriad of information sources that can not influence

Until 'you say' it rains, government thief "at the bar of the country are not dangerous to the system, but if you say" the king and 'naked' in public, perhaps become a Pelino annoying.
This thing annoys king Reucci, feudal lords and their courts.

ilnissardo wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

Jean Marco, what you say is true, very true.
But not for a democratic country that is said! I want to hope that in reality is just an oversight, and that the error be corrected.
I sincerely hope that there is an intent to claim or attempt to discourage people to communicate publicly. I want hope to continue to be proud of being Italian.

ilnissardo wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

If he starts talking .. This morning I toured the net but the only info I found on the computer section. Now I find something more. Obviously it speaks Beppe Grillo , and also incorporates MondoBlog of his friend Maximilian Badolati.
Waiting for more records if you have them.

Maximilian Badolati wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

Hello Andrew, is currently a petition to stop the DDL http://www.petitiononline.com/noDDL/petition.html

Michael wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

I do not feel Italian. ... because I am Sardinian! :-D

PB wrote a comment on October 19, 2007

More than 72 seats, the European Union had to kick us out!

Massim. wrote a comment on October 20, 2007

Fantastic. I heard only last night, I came here from you and I read with interest this post.
If you think the spread of blogging in Italy it is serious. What would this dll? An attempt to track all? Retaliation to the V-Day? Most importantly, blogs are really so afraid of politicians?
Apparently yes as you say even if we think in August ...
How sad this government.

Sleeping wrote a comment on October 20, 2007

@ Ilnissardo: appearing Barbina :-D ...
To me it seems a bit 'as the law had done time in Charles also spoke to requiring internet cafes and who offered an internet connection to register the data type the MAC address of the person making the connection, and especially to keep them for a years, as if after a year you can trace the identity of who is connected to the Internet. Useless maneuver made by those unfamiliar with the operation of the Internet, as well as harmful because the bulk (useless) data to be retained is very ...
Maybe they do not realize how many people have a blog (or, even more sadly, have understood and fear him as someone said :-( ...).
Perhaps if the government for a useful purpose, people do not complain. If it complains, it means that something is wrong and instead of taking appropriate measures to remedy, to cover her mouth ... the vox populi vox ...
As usual I wrote too :-D
Hello
:-)

silviakittys wrote a comment on October 20, 2007

Guys this stuff but they made it on purpose. Or rather there is a mixture of ignorance (that sorry but I can not help but grant) and will be able to block things like the V-Day Cricket and Company or otherwise for the abolition of tax on the charge came from Enable generation directly from the network. What do you think that this government (which still prefer to always Silvio slimy, just to clarify) is a government that cares about little things like freedom of speech, press, expression and so on?
Cares if it can become dangerous.
But you really believe that if citizens were not playing the story to remove the fee on recharges (which existed only in Italy) they would be worried about it jumping? No, sorry but all have a fear For - t lose the chair.
Sorry for the outburst but "slightly altered"

ilnissardo wrote a comment on October 20, 2007

All very interesting comments. It is to be alarmed? According to me, even if true (which is quite common as an idea in a network) that they have the big stoner and not have realized what they were doing.
And 'the trend is frightening!
The tendency to do things for them without so much into that.
The tendency to legislate people "ignorant" on about many different subjects.
Because only someone who knows the subject could not understand the consequences of the DDL as it is written.

Andrea wrote a comment on October 21, 2007

¡¡¡¡VIVA MEXICO CABRONES!! :) )

Seriously ...
the network has begun to scare even the Italian politicians.

People began to get alternative information to those disclosed by traditional media.

Such a law is proof of a country where democracy is still only an appearance.

Gaber sang Right-Left?
The irony was proposing problems (always current ...) on politics and society with a melancholy tone recalling the ideological struggles of his generation, defeated by general conformity and hypocrisy.

From my point of view, cynical, power is power on either side / color you see: gag the information is simply a way to preserve the authority of "legitimacy" through the ballot.

The DDL is a clear signal.

"All of us we went after the story
but I say that the fault is ours
it is clear that people are not serious
when you talk about left or right.

But what is right is left ...
But what is right is left ...

...

The ideology, the ideology
despite everything I still believe that there is
is passion, obsession
diversity of your
that when you do not know where it went
where no one knows where it is not known. "

Claudio - Di @ naLogic wrote a comment on October 22, 2007

Intutto this much chaos, I think Luke put in good order ideas.
What is certain is that as usual the text is too general and water on all sides, as like our politicians.

go read
http://blog.debiase.com/2007/10/20.html # a1470

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